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Re: We should

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Ozzapoo wrote:So the bottom line is, WE DON'T HACK.
Maybe you don't hack, but I do.
What's the problem? Why don't you guys want others to call it hacking?
And how about removing anti cheat protections? Is that hacking?
Concerning to wikipedia a hack can be a code modification
that wasn't supposed to be done/used the way it is implemented.
So at least cheatpacks are hacks!
I think everyone should call it like he wants to call it! That should be no problem, shouldn't it?

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Re: We should

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Wikipedia can hold information that is false. Anybody can post anything. Like, i can post about Trees. I could say, "To grow a tree, you must bury a donut in the desired area." But that is false, and we all know it. I also hack too sometimes... But i dont spoof anymore in color. It's just saying out loud: "I AM A HACKER" I guess you guys are right.. We are just EDITING the map, and putting in cheats, even on Single Player has cheats, all we are doing is making shortcuts. Also, what mapmaker DOESN'T make cheats for their own map? I understand now. Ty :)
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Re: We should

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Dekar wrote:
Ozzapoo wrote:So the bottom line is, WE DON'T HACK.
Maybe you don't hack, but I do.
What's the problem? Why don't you guys want others to call it hacking?
And how about removing anti cheat protections? Is that hacking?
Concerning to wikipedia a hack can be a code modification
that wasn't supposed to be done/used the way it is implemented.
So at least cheatpacks are hacks!
I think everyone should call it like he wants to call it! That should be no problem, shouldn't it?

greets Dekar
You hack, yes, but what we other staff members, however, are not. A code modification, you say? So, you're saying that all the mods for the Elder Scrolls series, the Baldur's Gate series, and any other series with mods are hacks? Somehow, that doesn't seem to fit in very well, and I doubt any developer would agree with it. Because it isn't being use in the way it was suppose to be used, right? According to the guy that wrote that page, that means that ALL mods are hacks.

I don't want to call it hacking because what I do and the other moderators do isn't hacking. That's why I don't like to call it hacking, because it isn't.

You can call what you do hacking, because it is, most of the time, but simpy inserting a cheat pack, or enabling single player, or changing a few lines of code to better suit your needs, I don't think is hacking at all.

As an aside, this is how arguments should be, without insults/flames and taunts/trolls.
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Re: We should

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Well Bart, hate to say it, most game makers, like Blizzard consider any third party tool a hack.
The only game that I know that has mods that aren't considered hacks is WoW. Blizzard actually likes us using mods on WoW. But on Wc3, any third tool program is a hack.
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Re: We should

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Kryptonyte wrote:Well Bart, hate to say it, most game makers, like Blizzard consider any third party tool a hack.
The only game that I know that has mods that aren't considered hacks is WoW. Blizzard actually likes us using mods on WoW. But on Wc3, any third tool program is a hack.
Wouldn't Blizzard be a bit more mad at us, then? Also, JASSCraft, MPQMaster, MPQRecoverer, Vexorian, Heavy Lock, Banlist, Listchecker, and all those are hacks?

Good thing Blizzard doesn't care about them.
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Re: We should

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Blizzard can't do anything to us.
And yes Bart, all those are hacks.
I even asked Tech Support. :D
Banlist, even though it's meant so
we can host a good game, is a hack.
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My quote from SKillER
Spoiler:
Chat wrote:(19:12:41) SKillER: newfags cant triforce
(19:20:30) SKillER: ▲
▲ ▲
(19:20:35) SKillER: aww
(19:20:37) FatherSpace: FAIL
(19:20:43) Kryptonyte: Wow stop failing.
(19:20:47) SKillER: ▲
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(19:21:41) Kryptonyte: .

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(19:22:20) Kryptonyte: I guess you were right, newfags can't triforce.
(19:22:29) SKillER: . . ▲
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(19:23:04) SKillER: OMFG
(19:23:06) SKillER: ... THIS CHAT
(19:23:06) SKillER: !
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Re: We should

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Kryptonyte wrote:Blizzard can't do anything to us.
And yes Bart, all those are hacks.
I even asked Tech Support. :D
Banlist, even though it's meant so
we can host a good game, is a hack.
The fact remains that EVERYONE uses these, "hacks", and therefore, all the warcraft 3 sites are illegal, too.

Including the DotA forums, and the Hive Workshop.

(edit) So, in conclusion, if they tried to take down our site, they'd have to try to take down all the other sites, too.
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Re: We should

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Not really. They would get us to remove all the downloads to Banlist, Auto-refreshers, and the other things. But the main part of our forum, the map editing, they couldn't do anything to it.
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My quote from SKillER
Spoiler:
Chat wrote:(19:12:41) SKillER: newfags cant triforce
(19:20:30) SKillER: ▲
▲ ▲
(19:20:35) SKillER: aww
(19:20:37) FatherSpace: FAIL
(19:20:43) Kryptonyte: Wow stop failing.
(19:20:47) SKillER: ▲
▲ ▲
(19:21:41) Kryptonyte: .

. ▲
▲ ▲
(19:22:20) Kryptonyte: I guess you were right, newfags can't triforce.
(19:22:29) SKillER: . . ▲
▲ ▲
(19:23:04) SKillER: OMFG
(19:23:06) SKillER: ... THIS CHAT
(19:23:06) SKillER: !
(19:23:36) SKillER: ▲
▲ ▲
(19:23:46) SKillER: ▲
.▲ ▲
Apparently, SKillER is a newfag.
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Re: We should

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Why do you think hacking is illegal?
Afaik it's most of the time part of fair use.
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Re: We should

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This is not my point.

My point is that if you call what we do hacking, you call what all other warcraft 3 sites hacking, too.