patrick-the-bomb wrote:Also because I am under the impression that JASS can't do THAT much more than GUI. I may be wrong, and if so, correct me.
Have you ever tried to code some of the DotA skills in GUI? No? Didn't think so.
Actually I tried to do one. Then failed because I just started and I had no idea what was happening.
storyyeller wrote:
patrick-the-bomb wrote:Also because I am under the impression that GUI can't do much.
I fixed it for you
The only reason you haven't seen the limitations of GUI is because you are used to thinking in terms of GUI actions or whatever.
Which is ok if all you ever want to do is Spawn unit x every 30 seconds or whatever, but once you switch to JASS, you can do infinitely more and you'll wonder why on earth you ever used GUI. For example, even something simple like a load/save code would be basically impossible using only GUI triggers.
Lol, thanks bro.
Like I said though, I'm def too lazy to go learn JASS and for Enfo's I really, REALLY don't think I'd need to anyway. It's pretty simple stuff...
patrick-the-bomb wrote:Also because I am under the impression that JASS can't do THAT much more than GUI.
GASP! o.o...
Jass can do maybe 50x more than GUI can. That's including bigass heavy duty systems, Huge mathematic formula's that require you to be very efficient and whatnot.
Then there's efficiency and time.
I guess I should provide an example.
Ok, First off, Let's say you're making a dialog with 10 buttons.
First, you'd make the trigger with the DialogSetup, Then there's the trigger adding the buttons, then there's the trigger showing the dialog, then there's the trigger doing actions for EACH of the buttons. That's like 13 triggers just for a dialog..
Now into jass, I used this kind of example because it's good and I have it handy.
library RaceSelect initializer init
function DialogSelect takes nothing returns nothing
local real x = GetRandomReal( GetRectMinX( gg_rct_Player_Spawn ), GetRectMaxX( gg_rct_Player_Spawn ) )
local real y = GetRandomReal( GetRectMinY( gg_rct_Player_Spawn ), GetRectMaxY( gg_rct_Player_Spawn ) )
local real r = 270.
local player p = GetTriggerPlayer()
local button b = GetClickedButton()
if b== Race[0] then
call CreateUnit( p, 'h001', x, y, r )
elseif b == Race[1] then
call CreateUnit( p, 'h013', x, y, r )
elseif b == Race[2] then
call CreateUnit( p, 'h014', x, y, r )
elseif b == Race[3] then
call CreateUnit( p, 'h017', x, y, r )
endif
if GetLocalPlayer() == p then
call PanCameraToTimed( x, y, 0. )
endif
set b = null
endfunction
private function init takes nothing returns nothing
local trigger t = CreateTrigger()
call TriggerRegisterDialogEvent( t, RaceSelect )
call TriggerAddAction( t, function DialogSelect )
set t = null
endfunction
endlibrary
See how much more efficient that is? Not to mention less time consuming. Jass is the first language I learned (and I only know one Computer language) I'll say it is difficult to learn at first, but it's really worthwhile once you can actually use it correctly.
Edit: Yea, I agree, Enfos is a pretty simple map to start with, just creating waves / and spawns pretty much, maybe a leader board.
But what if you want to add different modes? A cool hero select system? Maybe a name changing system? Possibly a setcam option too? You could also add a multiboard to that, Maybe a few cool spells? There's so many different things to do with jass, and it can be fun too.
Oh, I forgot to mention to come back and clean up all of those nasty leaks you've made in your map.
@Storyyeller, Dialogs are a really good example since most people using GUI have created some dialogs and know what I mean when I state my points.
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I need to learn JASS though. GUI I can pretty much figure out myself, and I have. Anyone know some badass JASS tutorials? If you help me find a good one I'll learn, but the ones I've seen don't help me at all.
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