another stupid nonsense conversation

[Manze]

Because people feel like doing that. Ever think of the chance that THEY DO know how to play, just that they would rather not spend from 30-40000 hours getting ranks? I doubt it. So, if you're going to tell us not to play this, stfu and get a life, 'cause you don't have one here. |_ 3 4 \/ 3, |) 4 |\| |< 3, |\| 0 0 |3.

Wow, someone who's actually capable of providing reasonings against me that apply to NOTD Aftermath, instead of using reasonings that apply to RPGs and such. I'm somewhat impressed.

As I've said, though, after Captain, there's very little purpose in getting new ranks. All it does is make the game harder and harder. Unless you're playing with a select group of people (which, from what I've seen, a lot of people using the hacked NOTD Aftermath aren't doing), then it makes the game suck for other people they play with. Sure, at Lt. Col. you get an ability that lets you see a smalkl area of the map, but it's got a pretty long cooldown. Why not just go Combat Engineer (which is available at Pfc.), and use the Communications Array's ability, which has a much shorter cooldown?
Also, at MajGen, you start getting minimarines at every point in time where there could be a reinforcements drop if players were dead. That's to say Convoy, star of Chapter 2, start of Chapter 3, and when Prometheus spawns. However, when you've hit that rank, the difficulty spike is high enough the effects of the minimarines are negligible.

I'd like to know why you people would prefer me to just go away than respond without attempting to insult me.

Dude, this is Dekar's website, not yours. Ever look at Illidan's posts? No, probably not. He told us to stop hacking to, did we listen to him? Heck no, we ignored him and told him to shut up, as we are doing now to you.

Now, I'm not sure if that's directed towards me, Legato, or both of us. However, Illidan is known for his inability to efficiently provide arguments and shit like that, so most people just don't care what the hell he says (here or elsewhere).

[Kala-cha]

Yes, it's somewhat directed towards you and Legato, know why? That's because you're telling us to take off a map off this site just because you play the non-hacked version. Let's see... why would we hack a map that no-one played? We wouldn't, really, would we? No. If we got rid of NOTD, (which we won't), we would have to accept to all other requests to destroy maps that are messing up other people's games. So, basically, we CAN'T take off a map, or we have to take off all maps. If you don't understand why, please, like, read what I've wrote like, 90 times, maybe you'll understand :D.


(Summary)
(You) Asks us to take off a map because you play it.
(Us) Say no, because even if we did say yes to your map, (which we won't), we'll have to say yes to other maps, because they're doing the same thing. If we accepted to your request, than we would have to accept to all requests! Which, eventually, would be all maps. They'll eventually find their way here. : P

[Legato]

why would you have to say yes to other people? other people is normally one person that made a map, asking you not to hack it, this is a whole community of people trying to keep their games legit. we don't mean to spam your forums or anything, we're not freaking out and cussing at you, we're keeping calm and asking nicely, even though most of you re-act with hostility. if you can say no to everyone now, why not just say yes to one group, and say no to the rest, i DO get your point though. it makes sense to us too, don't think we don't care about your forums as well as our own, not many people play NOTD-AM anyway, because it's so hard for new players, now we got new players, with high ranks, making the game completely impossible, because they don't know how to play, they missed the necessary training that you get from going from Private to whatever rank. They missed allot, how would you feel if you were trying to be the best at a very challenging map, then someone hacks it, and everyone is the best. you'd feel like crap, and now they are going to have to code wipe most likely in the new version, when and if it comes out. just please look at it from our point of view. Thanks

[Kala-cha]

But, eventually, we'll have to give up all our maps because people will spam spam spam our threads because we aren't giving up our maps, now. If you don't like to play NOTD with people that have high-ranks, but an actual bad player, play with your friends only, and\or other people you know. We cannot, I repeat, cannot, give up any maps, that would be like giving up a map we've been working on forever. If we do give it up, we'll have to give up all other maps! Don't you see, we cannot give up a map without giving up all our maps!

[Legato]

Yes, i do see that, but if you guys are smart enough to hack into NOTD-AM you should be able to think of something that can prevent someone from spamming your forums, am i wrong? we COMPLETELY understand where your coming from, we just want you to understand where WE are coming from. we need to come to some sort of an agreement here..give me a few minutes.

[Manze]

Yes, it's somewhat directed towards you and Legato, know why? That's because you're telling us to take off a map off this site just because you play the non-hacked version. Let's see... why would we hack a map that no-one played? We wouldn't, really, would we? No. If we got rid of NOTD, (which we won't), we would have to accept to all other requests to destroy maps that are messing up other people's games. So, basically, we CAN'T take off a map, or we have to take off all maps. If you don't understand why, please, like, read what I've wrote like, 90 times, maybe you'll understand .


(Summary)
(You) Asks us to take off a map because you play it.
(Us) Say no, because even if we did say yes to your map, (which we won't), we'll have to say yes to other maps, because they're doing the same thing. If we accepted to your request, than we would have to accept to all requests! Which, eventually, would be all maps. They'll eventually find their way here. : P

If you reread my posts, I never actually asked you to remove the map. I just asked why bother hacking this map, and posted reasons why hacking it is bad.
Maybe YOU'RE the one who needs to read what someone else posts 'like, 90 times, maybe you'll understand'.

EDIT: Legato, when you refer to something as 'we', please specify who the ... is involved in that 'we'.

[Kala-cha]

Look at all the hacked Maps, Manze. Why hack those maps either Manze? BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT TO PLAY THEM HACKED. We cheat these maps for the fun of Warcraft III, games aren't about playing the rules, it's about having fun, which is exactly what we're doing. You're wondering why we hack NOTD out of all the other maps in the world? Let's just say, if NOTD got cheated here, than it obviously must be worth cheating. There's plenty of maps people could want cheated, but they wanted NOTD to be cheated, so we cheated it. Every creator of a map that's been cheated could come here and say, "Why did you have to cheat MY map? Why couldn't you go cheat Wintermaul Wars instead?" Than the Duke-Wintermaul would say, "Why cheat my map, why don't you go cheat NOTD instead?" It would keep going on and on and on, just like fruit by-the foot. We can cheat any may we darn please.

[Legato]

I am a lil nubcake i love to waste my own time by going onto hacking forums and telling people not to hack i like to eat my own poop and im gay

[bojanglemistser]

I am a lil nubcake i love to waste my own time by going onto hacking forums and telling people not to hack i like to eat my own poop and im gay

Lololololool

sorry i couldnt resist

[Legato]

im a little faggot who needs to stfu and stop bitching about the proud people of wc3edit.net cheating my map im 2 gay to realise that they're only playing the map how they like to play it and im 2 dumb to realise they're not going to stop cheating my maps so im just going to sit here and bitch about it some more