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 Post subject: Re: PC Freeze
PostPosted: September 29th, 2014, 12:54 pm 
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Well, after a re-installation and moving back stuff some stuff got screwed with moving the user folder so I made a new user and moved that the exact same way and it is working.. Besides the fact it takes a lot longer to load (running on SSD) than before I formated... Some dumb stuff going on... =\

Anyway, I still have the problem, and I think Ill go to the shop either today or tomorrow.
I was going to don't click me another R9 280X to run on CrossFire but now the 980 has come out, I guess AMD will release something as well so a significant invalid drop might be comming. Not sure if to wait with this or not.

I ran the same log as before (using MSI AfterBurner) and played Hitman Absolution... Log is attached, but I don't think it will matter much...
FPS was steady all the way. either 60 or more.


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ChatBot: FatherSpace logs into the Chat.
(02:24:28) Lanaya: Gtfo ken.
(02:24:33) ChatBot: FatherSpace logs out of the Chat.
(02:24:40) Lanaya: Thought so. bitch.
(02:24:44) ChatBot: FatherSpace logs into the Chat.
(02:24:48) FatherSpace: Can I come back yet?
(02:24:51) Lanaya: What'd i say earlier.
(02:24:51) Lanaya: No.
(02:24:58) FatherSpace: Let's try this...
(02:25:01) ChatBot: Lanaya has been logged out (Kicked).
Code:

(14:33:51) 2Pac: Do you know what'S so funny?
(14:34:01) Lanaya: No, please show me.
(14:34:07) 2Pac: This.
(14:34:09) ChatBot: Lanaya has been logged out (Kicked).
(14:34:10) 2Pac:


Code:
(14:35:59) haxorico: No one will belive me if I say "I got this song from 2pac on MSN" lolz ^^
(14:36:02) Lanaya: lolz.
(14:36:16) 2Pac: I AIN'T DEAD FFS.
(14:36:26) 2Pac: I'm a living legend, y'now.
(14:37:17) haxorico: why is 2Pac a legend?
(14:37:28) Lanaya: He's the worse rapper evar.

Code:
(15:42:51) Lanaya: can i suck , . . .

Code:
(13:55:21) ChatBot: 2Pac rolls 1d100 and gets 1.
(13:55:21) ChatBot: haxorico rolls 1d2 and gets 2.
(13:55:27) haxorico: owned?

Code:
GeorgeMots: xplain what happens in SP. Why cant you save?
dast.-:i need play with 2 players

Code:
(21:53:08) (673237): plzplzplz, im sorry about before.
(21:53:26) FatherSpace: I'm sorry you were born.
(21:53:31) ChatBot: (673237) has been logged out (Kicked).


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(10:08:02) Bartimaeus: you do know run I youtube channel for my favorite music, right?


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 Post subject: Re: PC Freeze
PostPosted: September 29th, 2014, 5:38 pm 
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This time your GPU is maxed out the whole time.

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 Post subject: Re: PC Freeze
PostPosted: September 30th, 2014, 4:20 am 
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So... Does it mean anything?

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Spoiler:
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Code:
ChatBot: FatherSpace logs into the Chat.
(02:24:28) Lanaya: Gtfo ken.
(02:24:33) ChatBot: FatherSpace logs out of the Chat.
(02:24:40) Lanaya: Thought so. bitch.
(02:24:44) ChatBot: FatherSpace logs into the Chat.
(02:24:48) FatherSpace: Can I come back yet?
(02:24:51) Lanaya: What'd i say earlier.
(02:24:51) Lanaya: No.
(02:24:58) FatherSpace: Let's try this...
(02:25:01) ChatBot: Lanaya has been logged out (Kicked).
Code:

(14:33:51) 2Pac: Do you know what'S so funny?
(14:34:01) Lanaya: No, please show me.
(14:34:07) 2Pac: This.
(14:34:09) ChatBot: Lanaya has been logged out (Kicked).
(14:34:10) 2Pac:


Code:
(14:35:59) haxorico: No one will belive me if I say "I got this song from 2pac on MSN" lolz ^^
(14:36:02) Lanaya: lolz.
(14:36:16) 2Pac: I AIN'T DEAD FFS.
(14:36:26) 2Pac: I'm a living legend, y'now.
(14:37:17) haxorico: why is 2Pac a legend?
(14:37:28) Lanaya: He's the worse rapper evar.

Code:
(15:42:51) Lanaya: can i suck , . . .

Code:
(13:55:21) ChatBot: 2Pac rolls 1d100 and gets 1.
(13:55:21) ChatBot: haxorico rolls 1d2 and gets 2.
(13:55:27) haxorico: owned?

Code:
GeorgeMots: xplain what happens in SP. Why cant you save?
dast.-:i need play with 2 players

Code:
(21:53:08) (673237): plzplzplz, im sorry about before.
(21:53:26) FatherSpace: I'm sorry you were born.
(21:53:31) ChatBot: (673237) has been logged out (Kicked).


Code:
(10:08:02) Bartimaeus: you do know run I youtube channel for my favorite music, right?


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 Post subject: Re: PC Freeze
PostPosted: September 30th, 2014, 11:06 am 
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I'm no expert on this matter. If you are taking your computer to a tech, it might be helpful to show him the logs/graphs.

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 Post subject: Re: PC Freeze
PostPosted: September 30th, 2014, 6:11 pm 
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I gave my card back to the shop. For now I got the same card but not the same manufacture (sapphire card was taking 3 slots) so now i have Asus's card. Direct CU 2 - I will update this thread with results

Edit: Well after over 2 hours of the same stuff. I can happily say that my screens did NOT freeze. So all this time it was a GPU problem.
Thank you guys for the help. This post has been so SUPER long :D gratz!

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Spoiler:
(02:24:09)
Code:
ChatBot: FatherSpace logs into the Chat.
(02:24:28) Lanaya: Gtfo ken.
(02:24:33) ChatBot: FatherSpace logs out of the Chat.
(02:24:40) Lanaya: Thought so. bitch.
(02:24:44) ChatBot: FatherSpace logs into the Chat.
(02:24:48) FatherSpace: Can I come back yet?
(02:24:51) Lanaya: What'd i say earlier.
(02:24:51) Lanaya: No.
(02:24:58) FatherSpace: Let's try this...
(02:25:01) ChatBot: Lanaya has been logged out (Kicked).
Code:

(14:33:51) 2Pac: Do you know what'S so funny?
(14:34:01) Lanaya: No, please show me.
(14:34:07) 2Pac: This.
(14:34:09) ChatBot: Lanaya has been logged out (Kicked).
(14:34:10) 2Pac:


Code:
(14:35:59) haxorico: No one will belive me if I say "I got this song from 2pac on MSN" lolz ^^
(14:36:02) Lanaya: lolz.
(14:36:16) 2Pac: I AIN'T DEAD FFS.
(14:36:26) 2Pac: I'm a living legend, y'now.
(14:37:17) haxorico: why is 2Pac a legend?
(14:37:28) Lanaya: He's the worse rapper evar.

Code:
(15:42:51) Lanaya: can i suck , . . .

Code:
(13:55:21) ChatBot: 2Pac rolls 1d100 and gets 1.
(13:55:21) ChatBot: haxorico rolls 1d2 and gets 2.
(13:55:27) haxorico: owned?

Code:
GeorgeMots: xplain what happens in SP. Why cant you save?
dast.-:i need play with 2 players

Code:
(21:53:08) (673237): plzplzplz, im sorry about before.
(21:53:26) FatherSpace: I'm sorry you were born.
(21:53:31) ChatBot: (673237) has been logged out (Kicked).


Code:
(10:08:02) Bartimaeus: you do know run I youtube channel for my favorite music, right?


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 Post subject: Re: PC Freeze
PostPosted: October 9th, 2014, 12:39 am 
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Well... I guess we are not done yet are we?
I got the card back from the shop and the tech guy over there said he ran a stress test for 2 hours on the GPU and it was fine, nothing wrong here. and the gave it back to me, I think he also cleaned it from dust from examining the GPU.
Well now, scratching my head about what could be the problem, I went back to my PC and installed the GPU in a crossfire configuration with the working 280x. At this point was starting to benchmark some games to see how good the performance is and it turns out my UPS(I think?) isn't strong enough to delive the PSU the power needed. My PSU is a silver rated 850 from sea sonic and the UPS is "Advice 850PRV". So I plugged that out and connected my PC straight to the wall a bit sad. Any one know how to check the power of the UPS I need?
Well anyway, back to the GPU problem at hand.
After benchmarking and tweaking with teh settings (also both cards are set to the same clock speeds - 1070MHz clock and 1600 MHz Memory) I thought it was not 100% what I expected but I could see a change and everything I play is running on 60FPS so I thought it was good enough.
So then I started playing a relatively "light game". DotA 2 while still monitoring the GPUs using MSI AfterBurner - with the FPS maxed to 120 (it was 120 solid with only 1 GPU as well) and in no time, the PC crashed.
I checked the logs and... well both GPUs were at around the 50 degrees. I never had a crash at that point. So I don't think it is the card shutting itself off from the heat. I am just clue less to what could have caused it...
As always I attached the log itself. Is it possible the power is the PSU not giving enough power? or something along these lines?
I thought a silver 850W would do it for this kind of set up. My GPUs in total take 3x8pin connectors and a single 6pin to power them all (the card that causes the crash has 2x8pin connectors). If it isn't enough, what should I upgrade to?

Sorry for the really long post, I am trying to give as much information as possible.


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Spoiler:
(02:24:09)
Code:
ChatBot: FatherSpace logs into the Chat.
(02:24:28) Lanaya: Gtfo ken.
(02:24:33) ChatBot: FatherSpace logs out of the Chat.
(02:24:40) Lanaya: Thought so. bitch.
(02:24:44) ChatBot: FatherSpace logs into the Chat.
(02:24:48) FatherSpace: Can I come back yet?
(02:24:51) Lanaya: What'd i say earlier.
(02:24:51) Lanaya: No.
(02:24:58) FatherSpace: Let's try this...
(02:25:01) ChatBot: Lanaya has been logged out (Kicked).
Code:

(14:33:51) 2Pac: Do you know what'S so funny?
(14:34:01) Lanaya: No, please show me.
(14:34:07) 2Pac: This.
(14:34:09) ChatBot: Lanaya has been logged out (Kicked).
(14:34:10) 2Pac:


Code:
(14:35:59) haxorico: No one will belive me if I say "I got this song from 2pac on MSN" lolz ^^
(14:36:02) Lanaya: lolz.
(14:36:16) 2Pac: I AIN'T DEAD FFS.
(14:36:26) 2Pac: I'm a living legend, y'now.
(14:37:17) haxorico: why is 2Pac a legend?
(14:37:28) Lanaya: He's the worse rapper evar.

Code:
(15:42:51) Lanaya: can i suck , . . .

Code:
(13:55:21) ChatBot: 2Pac rolls 1d100 and gets 1.
(13:55:21) ChatBot: haxorico rolls 1d2 and gets 2.
(13:55:27) haxorico: owned?

Code:
GeorgeMots: xplain what happens in SP. Why cant you save?
dast.-:i need play with 2 players

Code:
(21:53:08) (673237): plzplzplz, im sorry about before.
(21:53:26) FatherSpace: I'm sorry you were born.
(21:53:31) ChatBot: (673237) has been logged out (Kicked).


Code:
(10:08:02) Bartimaeus: you do know run I youtube channel for my favorite music, right?


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 Post subject: Re: PC Freeze
PostPosted: October 9th, 2014, 1:44 pm 
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Crossfire, meh :/

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 Post subject: Re: PC Freeze
PostPosted: October 9th, 2014, 7:59 pm 
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I would have thought the tech had a good idea what the problem is.

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 Post subject: Re: PC Freeze
PostPosted: October 9th, 2014, 8:36 pm 
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Well I only gave him the card, and he says the card is fine. So it may NOT be the card per say... But a problem with the GPU and another component. Either the PSU or motherboard.
It crashed really fast when I had crossfire so I wonder what could have caused that... Not enough power? Bad connectors from the PSU? (this card takes 2x8pin and the other 1x8 and 1x6) so maybe one of my connectors is not working properly?
Sometimes things just don't work as planned for no reason :(

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Spoiler:
(02:24:09)
Code:
ChatBot: FatherSpace logs into the Chat.
(02:24:28) Lanaya: Gtfo ken.
(02:24:33) ChatBot: FatherSpace logs out of the Chat.
(02:24:40) Lanaya: Thought so. bitch.
(02:24:44) ChatBot: FatherSpace logs into the Chat.
(02:24:48) FatherSpace: Can I come back yet?
(02:24:51) Lanaya: What'd i say earlier.
(02:24:51) Lanaya: No.
(02:24:58) FatherSpace: Let's try this...
(02:25:01) ChatBot: Lanaya has been logged out (Kicked).
Code:

(14:33:51) 2Pac: Do you know what'S so funny?
(14:34:01) Lanaya: No, please show me.
(14:34:07) 2Pac: This.
(14:34:09) ChatBot: Lanaya has been logged out (Kicked).
(14:34:10) 2Pac:


Code:
(14:35:59) haxorico: No one will belive me if I say "I got this song from 2pac on MSN" lolz ^^
(14:36:02) Lanaya: lolz.
(14:36:16) 2Pac: I AIN'T DEAD FFS.
(14:36:26) 2Pac: I'm a living legend, y'now.
(14:37:17) haxorico: why is 2Pac a legend?
(14:37:28) Lanaya: He's the worse rapper evar.

Code:
(15:42:51) Lanaya: can i suck , . . .

Code:
(13:55:21) ChatBot: 2Pac rolls 1d100 and gets 1.
(13:55:21) ChatBot: haxorico rolls 1d2 and gets 2.
(13:55:27) haxorico: owned?

Code:
GeorgeMots: xplain what happens in SP. Why cant you save?
dast.-:i need play with 2 players

Code:
(21:53:08) (673237): plzplzplz, im sorry about before.
(21:53:26) FatherSpace: I'm sorry you were born.
(21:53:31) ChatBot: (673237) has been logged out (Kicked).


Code:
(10:08:02) Bartimaeus: you do know run I youtube channel for my favorite music, right?


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 Post subject: Re: PC Freeze
PostPosted: October 9th, 2014, 9:39 pm 
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I guess you don't have an oscilloscope or a decent multimeter with min/max detection at hand? I would suggest monitoring the voltages. Also does the problem persist when you only use one of the GPUs? I really don't think Crossfire/SLI is worth it, anyway.

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