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 Post subject: Re: PC Freeze
PostPosted: September 21st, 2014, 6:39 am 
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You have this misconception about temperature. In ultrabooks for example CPUs regularly run at 100°C. That's due to the fact that higher temperature differences improve the cooling efficiency, running it hot allows for less fan noise. Also Intel CPUs can't overheat in normal operation, they just throttle down and at some point shut off. For stressing your CPU you can use prime95, though a CPU problem is highly unlikely. It's much more likely to be about any other component.

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 Post subject: Re: PC Freeze
PostPosted: September 21st, 2014, 8:48 am 
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Thank you Dekar, I will check prime95.
Also I dont think the CPU is bad... I think it is the cooler on it. Ever since installing it I think I did something wrong as I never installed a cooler before. Also now that I bought a thermal paste it doesn't look exactly like that one that came with the cooler. The one in the cooler just came in a little baggy and I ended up making a lot of mess, Unlike the bottle+cap I got for almost no invalid from Noctua

Edit: Well I opened the computer, removed the heatsink, cleaned the CPU and the heatsink using alocohol, cleaned it again with paper, re-applied thermal paste. screwed everything back in. Still crashed same way. So I am out of ideas (until I will be able to get to the store and replace it)

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ChatBot: FatherSpace logs into the Chat.
(02:24:28) Lanaya: Gtfo ken.
(02:24:33) ChatBot: FatherSpace logs out of the Chat.
(02:24:40) Lanaya: Thought so. bitch.
(02:24:44) ChatBot: FatherSpace logs into the Chat.
(02:24:48) FatherSpace: Can I come back yet?
(02:24:51) Lanaya: What'd i say earlier.
(02:24:51) Lanaya: No.
(02:24:58) FatherSpace: Let's try this...
(02:25:01) ChatBot: Lanaya has been logged out (Kicked).
Code:

(14:33:51) 2Pac: Do you know what'S so funny?
(14:34:01) Lanaya: No, please show me.
(14:34:07) 2Pac: This.
(14:34:09) ChatBot: Lanaya has been logged out (Kicked).
(14:34:10) 2Pac:


Code:
(14:35:59) haxorico: No one will belive me if I say "I got this song from 2pac on MSN" lolz ^^
(14:36:02) Lanaya: lolz.
(14:36:16) 2Pac: I AIN'T DEAD FFS.
(14:36:26) 2Pac: I'm a living legend, y'now.
(14:37:17) haxorico: why is 2Pac a legend?
(14:37:28) Lanaya: He's the worse rapper evar.

Code:
(15:42:51) Lanaya: can i suck , . . .

Code:
(13:55:21) ChatBot: 2Pac rolls 1d100 and gets 1.
(13:55:21) ChatBot: haxorico rolls 1d2 and gets 2.
(13:55:27) haxorico: owned?

Code:
GeorgeMots: xplain what happens in SP. Why cant you save?
dast.-:i need play with 2 players

Code:
(21:53:08) (673237): plzplzplz, im sorry about before.
(21:53:26) FatherSpace: I'm sorry you were born.
(21:53:31) ChatBot: (673237) has been logged out (Kicked).


Code:
(10:08:02) Bartimaeus: you do know run I youtube channel for my favorite music, right?


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 Post subject: Re: PC Freeze
PostPosted: September 21st, 2014, 1:23 pm 
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Took a look at your hitman freeze. I slapped all the info into excel and found your last 50 minutes is where you spike. I've uploaded the excel file here:


https://www.sendspace.com/file/cl167u

In the first graph, the temps are ok, but the GPU usage (in the same graph) is maxed out.

In the second graph, some of the cores are pretty much inactive, but then also are maxed out. This almost tells me that your machine gets unstable with all the cores. You might try using only 6 or 4, and see if you can limit the cpu usage. I beleive you can do that in "poer settings" in windows.

The third graph is the leftover info. The only thing that I see is the memory usage is also high. I don't kbow if this could be a problem

The last graph is the last hour of your log. It's just a zoomed in version of the cpu/gpu usage.

I'm no expert on hardware looking at these logs and all the numbers, but the hopefully the graphs give you a little insight.

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 Post subject: Re: PC Freeze
PostPosted: September 21st, 2014, 8:37 pm 
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WOW! That is a much better way of looking at the specifics and analysing, instead of looking of a foot long html file. Thank you, I will try to use less cores, even tough I thought games use like a core or 2 at max.
Also, I re-applied thermal paste (after cleaning and making a clean alcohol sweep) and it still crashed.

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Code:
ChatBot: FatherSpace logs into the Chat.
(02:24:28) Lanaya: Gtfo ken.
(02:24:33) ChatBot: FatherSpace logs out of the Chat.
(02:24:40) Lanaya: Thought so. bitch.
(02:24:44) ChatBot: FatherSpace logs into the Chat.
(02:24:48) FatherSpace: Can I come back yet?
(02:24:51) Lanaya: What'd i say earlier.
(02:24:51) Lanaya: No.
(02:24:58) FatherSpace: Let's try this...
(02:25:01) ChatBot: Lanaya has been logged out (Kicked).
Code:

(14:33:51) 2Pac: Do you know what'S so funny?
(14:34:01) Lanaya: No, please show me.
(14:34:07) 2Pac: This.
(14:34:09) ChatBot: Lanaya has been logged out (Kicked).
(14:34:10) 2Pac:


Code:
(14:35:59) haxorico: No one will belive me if I say "I got this song from 2pac on MSN" lolz ^^
(14:36:02) Lanaya: lolz.
(14:36:16) 2Pac: I AIN'T DEAD FFS.
(14:36:26) 2Pac: I'm a living legend, y'now.
(14:37:17) haxorico: why is 2Pac a legend?
(14:37:28) Lanaya: He's the worse rapper evar.

Code:
(15:42:51) Lanaya: can i suck , . . .

Code:
(13:55:21) ChatBot: 2Pac rolls 1d100 and gets 1.
(13:55:21) ChatBot: haxorico rolls 1d2 and gets 2.
(13:55:27) haxorico: owned?

Code:
GeorgeMots: xplain what happens in SP. Why cant you save?
dast.-:i need play with 2 players

Code:
(21:53:08) (673237): plzplzplz, im sorry about before.
(21:53:26) FatherSpace: I'm sorry you were born.
(21:53:31) ChatBot: (673237) has been logged out (Kicked).


Code:
(10:08:02) Bartimaeus: you do know run I youtube channel for my favorite music, right?


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 Post subject: Re: PC Freeze
PostPosted: September 23rd, 2014, 11:07 pm 
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Your CPU is fine, move on. :/

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 Post subject: Re: PC Freeze
PostPosted: September 23rd, 2014, 11:13 pm 
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Dekar wrote:
Your CPU is fine, move on. :/


You could at least say "please". 8)

What would you think makes the whole computer resources spike as shown in the graph?

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 Post subject: Re: PC Freeze
PostPosted: September 24th, 2014, 11:12 pm 
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Could be one of those bitcoin-miner-viruses. :D Trying a clean Windows installation wouldn't hurt, but I'd probably just try to replace the graphics card or mainboard. Do you have a spare PSU lying around? That could be worth a try as well.

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 Post subject: Re: PC Freeze
PostPosted: September 27th, 2014, 2:56 pm 
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I don't have a spare PSU that is capable of running my current PC.
I got my old PSU just sitting here but it is old and 450w, also it is currently at my brother's "storage" so no real access to test it.
I will make a clean windows installation, it sounds like a good plan as I have it installed for some time. Altough I think I should save all the appdata folder and the "documets" folder.
Is there a way to re-direct those?
I changed my "Documets/Music/Games/Videos" and I am installing everything out of the C drive, yet stuff are still being added to C. Stuff like the appdata folder. And I am running on a rather small SSD (120GB)
Also, wont that keep the virus alive? If I just back everything up?

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Spoiler:
(02:24:09)
Code:
ChatBot: FatherSpace logs into the Chat.
(02:24:28) Lanaya: Gtfo ken.
(02:24:33) ChatBot: FatherSpace logs out of the Chat.
(02:24:40) Lanaya: Thought so. bitch.
(02:24:44) ChatBot: FatherSpace logs into the Chat.
(02:24:48) FatherSpace: Can I come back yet?
(02:24:51) Lanaya: What'd i say earlier.
(02:24:51) Lanaya: No.
(02:24:58) FatherSpace: Let's try this...
(02:25:01) ChatBot: Lanaya has been logged out (Kicked).
Code:

(14:33:51) 2Pac: Do you know what'S so funny?
(14:34:01) Lanaya: No, please show me.
(14:34:07) 2Pac: This.
(14:34:09) ChatBot: Lanaya has been logged out (Kicked).
(14:34:10) 2Pac:


Code:
(14:35:59) haxorico: No one will belive me if I say "I got this song from 2pac on MSN" lolz ^^
(14:36:02) Lanaya: lolz.
(14:36:16) 2Pac: I AIN'T DEAD FFS.
(14:36:26) 2Pac: I'm a living legend, y'now.
(14:37:17) haxorico: why is 2Pac a legend?
(14:37:28) Lanaya: He's the worse rapper evar.

Code:
(15:42:51) Lanaya: can i suck , . . .

Code:
(13:55:21) ChatBot: 2Pac rolls 1d100 and gets 1.
(13:55:21) ChatBot: haxorico rolls 1d2 and gets 2.
(13:55:27) haxorico: owned?

Code:
GeorgeMots: xplain what happens in SP. Why cant you save?
dast.-:i need play with 2 players

Code:
(21:53:08) (673237): plzplzplz, im sorry about before.
(21:53:26) FatherSpace: I'm sorry you were born.
(21:53:31) ChatBot: (673237) has been logged out (Kicked).


Code:
(10:08:02) Bartimaeus: you do know run I youtube channel for my favorite music, right?


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 Post subject: Re: PC Freeze
PostPosted: September 27th, 2014, 4:24 pm 
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haxorico wrote:
Altough I think I should save all the appdata folder and the "documets" folder.
Is there a way to re-direct those?


Redirect: right click appdata/local on properties. Click the "location" tab.

If you installl big programs, and programs with big TEMP files such as Adobe, then make sure you install them onto a different drive.
If you want to see where your space is held up, use spacesniffer http://download.cnet.com/SpaceSniffer/3000-18512_4-10913555.html
Delete your temp files before copying or moving your data. (saves a lot of time)

Also, I would copy the entire contents of your USER folder before reinstalling windows.

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 Post subject: Re: PC Freeze
PostPosted: September 27th, 2014, 10:07 pm 
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I was mostly joking about that miner-virus. It could be many different things, thus getting a clean installation is a good idea.

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