colided theory.

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colided theory.

Post by haxorico »

as said in other posts (that have over 10pages so i didnt read them all and answer might be there but cmon:P)
inorder to make a colided map. i just need not to change the things that blizzard receives or smthing like that. like gold. but. if i change the skills that are in the map, so they will do more damage. will it crash?
example.

i changed riki's ability that when he backstabs he will not x.25/.50/.75/1 agi bonus damage. he will have +20 in each. x.45/.70/.95/1.2.
someplayer (me for for the example) wants to activate the "bonus" damage skills for rikimaru.
i write to observers "gimme riki bonus please". (ofc before hosting i changed the skill damage)
will i have this bonus damage?
and will i be able to do this to all heroes? like with Lucifer, when he EATS a creep ill get not 10/20/30/40 gold ill get 20/40/60/80 gold..
are those 2 possible?
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(02:24:28) Lanaya: Gtfo ken.
(02:24:33) ChatBot: FatherSpace logs out of the Chat.
(02:24:40) Lanaya: Thought so. bitch.
(02:24:44) ChatBot: FatherSpace logs into the Chat.
(02:24:48) FatherSpace: Can I come back yet?
(02:24:51) Lanaya: What'd i say earlier.
(02:24:51) Lanaya: No.
(02:24:58) FatherSpace: Let's try this...
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(14:33:51) 2Pac: Do you know what'S so funny?
(14:34:01) Lanaya: No, please show me.
(14:34:07) 2Pac: This.
(14:34:09) ChatBot: Lanaya has been logged out (Kicked).
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(14:35:59) haxorico: No one will belive me if I say "I got this song from 2pac on MSN" lolz ^^
(14:36:02) Lanaya: lolz.
(14:36:16) 2Pac: I AIN'T DEAD FFS.
(14:36:26) 2Pac: I'm a living legend, y'now.
(14:37:17) haxorico: why is 2Pac a legend?
(14:37:28) Lanaya: He's the worse rapper evar.

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(15:42:51) Lanaya: can i suck , . . .

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(13:55:21) ChatBot: 2Pac rolls 1d100 and gets 1.
(13:55:21) ChatBot: haxorico rolls 1d2 and gets 2.
(13:55:27) haxorico: owned?

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GeorgeMots: xplain what happens in SP. Why cant you save?
dast.-:i need play with 2 players

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(21:53:08) (673237): plzplzplz, im sorry about before.
(21:53:26) FatherSpace: I'm sorry you were born.
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Re: colided theory.

Post by storyyeller »

You can't collide maps anymore since the 1.23 patch
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Re: colided theory.

Post by Risen »

You can't collide any map (publically) as of now.

As for the theory, You can do things locally, like changing the map script around, Such as changing some formulas to suit you better, You can't change things like gold/lumber received in any way.

Meh, I was never really a big fan of collided maps, So I didn't know much about them
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Re: colided theory.

Post by patrick-the-bomb »

No. You can't change the damage orthe gold gain from the skill. I never used a collided map, nor did I make one, but I know that shouldn't work.

Both the damage and the gold gain are affcting other players, not just yourself. Thereby causing desync and disconnection.

Think of it this way... If a maphack can do it, the collided map could. Since maphacks are clinet side and not server side it only affects you. (Hence client-side. Meaning one client, meaning the person running it.)

Also, 1.23 patch killed the collidables. Unless you're running on garana or something, I'm pretty sure it's not possible anymore.
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Re: colided theory.

Post by SpEeDyG. »

Stop repeating that the patch 1.23 killed owned etc. collided maps.If we are still talking about them that means that we CAN
use them not all wc3 b.net servers use 1.23 some of them are still in the stone age like mine is still in 1.21
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Re: colided theory.

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SpEeDyG. wrote:Stop repeating that the patch 1.23 killed owned etc. collided maps.If we are still talking about them that means that we CAN
use them not all wc3 b.net servers use 1.23 some of them are still in the stone age like mine is still in 1.21
yeah i forgat to mention im on a not-updated game server so i can still use it. waht server are u useing SpEeDyHG? we might be toghter?:P

anyhow.
there is no way to change to the skillz? like pudge ROOT burns enemies but only does 50% damage to himself? or any other basic skills like auras?
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ChatBot: FatherSpace logs into the Chat.
(02:24:28) Lanaya: Gtfo ken.
(02:24:33) ChatBot: FatherSpace logs out of the Chat.
(02:24:40) Lanaya: Thought so. bitch.
(02:24:44) ChatBot: FatherSpace logs into the Chat.
(02:24:48) FatherSpace: Can I come back yet?
(02:24:51) Lanaya: What'd i say earlier.
(02:24:51) Lanaya: No.
(02:24:58) FatherSpace: Let's try this...
(02:25:01) ChatBot: Lanaya has been logged out (Kicked).

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(14:33:51) 2Pac: Do you know what'S so funny?
(14:34:01) Lanaya: No, please show me.
(14:34:07) 2Pac: This.
(14:34:09) ChatBot: Lanaya has been logged out (Kicked).
(14:34:10) 2Pac: 

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(14:35:59) haxorico: No one will belive me if I say "I got this song from 2pac on MSN" lolz ^^
(14:36:02) Lanaya: lolz.
(14:36:16) 2Pac: I AIN'T DEAD FFS.
(14:36:26) 2Pac: I'm a living legend, y'now.
(14:37:17) haxorico: why is 2Pac a legend?
(14:37:28) Lanaya: He's the worse rapper evar.

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(15:42:51) Lanaya: can i suck , . . .

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(13:55:21) ChatBot: 2Pac rolls 1d100 and gets 1.
(13:55:21) ChatBot: haxorico rolls 1d2 and gets 2.
(13:55:27) haxorico: owned?

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GeorgeMots: xplain what happens in SP. Why cant you save?
dast.-:i need play with 2 players

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(21:53:08) (673237): plzplzplz, im sorry about before.
(21:53:26) FatherSpace: I'm sorry you were born.
(21:53:31) ChatBot: (673237) has been logged out (Kicked).

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(10:08:02) Bartimaeus: you do know run I youtube channel for my favorite music, right?
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Re: colided theory.

Post by Hillo »

haxorico wrote: anyhow.
there is no way to change to the skillz? like pudge ROOT burns enemies but only does 50% damage to himself? or any other basic skills like auras?
Hero armor reduces spell damage by 25%. :D
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Re: colided theory.

Post by haxorico »

Hillo wrote:
haxorico wrote: anyhow.
there is no way to change to the skillz? like pudge ROOT burns enemies but only does 50% damage to himself? or any other basic skills like auras?
Hero armor reduces spell damage by 25%. :D
+the skill that gives u spell protection (17% if i remember right)
+hood of defiance.

but still :D
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ChatBot: FatherSpace logs into the Chat.
(02:24:28) Lanaya: Gtfo ken.
(02:24:33) ChatBot: FatherSpace logs out of the Chat.
(02:24:40) Lanaya: Thought so. bitch.
(02:24:44) ChatBot: FatherSpace logs into the Chat.
(02:24:48) FatherSpace: Can I come back yet?
(02:24:51) Lanaya: What'd i say earlier.
(02:24:51) Lanaya: No.
(02:24:58) FatherSpace: Let's try this...
(02:25:01) ChatBot: Lanaya has been logged out (Kicked).

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(14:33:51) 2Pac: Do you know what'S so funny?
(14:34:01) Lanaya: No, please show me.
(14:34:07) 2Pac: This.
(14:34:09) ChatBot: Lanaya has been logged out (Kicked).
(14:34:10) 2Pac: 

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(14:35:59) haxorico: No one will belive me if I say "I got this song from 2pac on MSN" lolz ^^
(14:36:02) Lanaya: lolz.
(14:36:16) 2Pac: I AIN'T DEAD FFS.
(14:36:26) 2Pac: I'm a living legend, y'now.
(14:37:17) haxorico: why is 2Pac a legend?
(14:37:28) Lanaya: He's the worse rapper evar.

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(15:42:51) Lanaya: can i suck , . . .

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(13:55:21) ChatBot: 2Pac rolls 1d100 and gets 1.
(13:55:21) ChatBot: haxorico rolls 1d2 and gets 2.
(13:55:27) haxorico: owned?

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GeorgeMots: xplain what happens in SP. Why cant you save?
dast.-:i need play with 2 players

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(21:53:08) (673237): plzplzplz, im sorry about before.
(21:53:26) FatherSpace: I'm sorry you were born.
(21:53:31) ChatBot: (673237) has been logged out (Kicked).

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(10:08:02) Bartimaeus: you do know run I youtube channel for my favorite music, right?
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Re: colided theory.

Post by Soul »

YES ! U can modify a lot of things and making it collided and enjoy it WITHOUT desync.

I call that cache modifying, but it is not good to spread that around as it will be harder for hackers to hack in the future.

Ps: Ur doom thingy was 100% possible to do, u gain like 7000 gold for each creep, look at fai's map.
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Re: colided theory.

Post by SpEeDyG. »

haxorico wrote:
SpEeDyG. wrote:Stop repeating that the patch 1.23 killed owned etc. collided maps.If we are still talking about them that means that we CAN
use them not all wc3 b.net servers use 1.23 some of them are still in the stone age like mine is still in 1.21
yeah i forgat to mention im on a not-updated game server so i can still use it. waht server are u useing SpEeDyHG? we might be toghter?:P

anyhow.
there is no way to change to the skillz? like pudge ROOT burns enemies but only does 50% damage to himself? or any other basic skills like auras?
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